You say that Satan focused on Eve because she was beautiful-she reflected God's glory and she gave light. What are the pitfalls-what kind of evils out there are women vulnerable to?
JE: Unless you interpret your life as a woman as involving a villain who hates you and doesn't want you to have rich relationship and doesn't want you to have a meaningful career and doesn't want you to have children that love you-
SE: -and doesn't want you to believe that you're beautiful and doesn't want you to know that you have something of incredible value to offer.
JE: Then you will just think it's your inability to get your life together.
So you have to realize there's an enemy out there?
JE: You have to.
SE: It's not all you. JE: Otherwise you just live with shame. And this enemy is the devil? Or society or...?
JE: Absolutely. [Now] it's the devil. He uses people, right?
SE: Absolutely. JE: And society has done terrible things to women. But what we're trying to help them see is the source behind them. Because if you try and fix the blame on a man or men or culture, you'll miss what's really driving evil.
SE: And we know, women know. Open a newspaper, about what's happening in any country. The brunt of war is falling on women and children. The sexual assault against women-the statistics are horrible, and yet it's so underreported. It's much worse. So we know we're living in a dangerous world, but we have to realize that it's not just what's coming against us physically; it's what's coming against us spiritually.
JE: Especially against your hearts, what you live under: the accusations, guilt, condemnation, shame, reproach, fear.
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